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you all have made valid arguments but none of you have realize that our music is heading for a change, the music goes with the technology of today. It does not matter if you are a mini band you can still play good music, it does not require a band to have a horn section to play great music. Let’s not forget what music is: Melody, Harmony, Composition etc. if you can do either one of those you are on the ball. Now what matters the most is how much talent and how much time do you spend on making it, how much effort do you invest in making it, how much interest do you have in making it.

We the fanatic, seems to accept anything that is thrown our way, illustration: T-vice and Carimi………… we fell in love with the following: Pou Janm Pale; Dim Saw We; Tafia ... Sam Fè Map Peye; Kompa Sa'a; Sensation; Ban'm T-Vice Mwen…(don’t under estimate my regards for the effort) Carimi: (Bang bang, nasty biznis, chov, bo kote ou etc…) that I have to lol at.

Where is the commitment to giving you the fans what is suitable to your liking?

 Most of what you mentioned, I agree with. However, what you and I observe in the so called HMI, is symptomatic of Haitian society in general. Besides, many if not most of the so called musicians performing nowadays are not  really musicians. They just fool around with an instrument enough to remember the location of certain sounds. But if you pull out a partition (sheet music) or ask them to play specific notes, they don't have the slightest idea about where to begin or what to do. In the old days, schools in Haiti used to teach music(solfege) as part of their curiculum, especially the public H.S. However, with the degradation  and dumming down that is going on all over the world coupled with advances in technology and electronics anyone can claim to be a musician now. That for instance explains how a Band like "New York All Stars" could not make it while T-Vice, CARIMI and countless other "digital bands" play night after night to a packed house. Promoters charge exorbitant prices and have no respect for the party-goers with respect to the quality of the shows or ponctuality of the performers. And yet, the people keep going to these shows. Nowadays, everybody is copying everybody else, with very few exceptions, but no one seems to notice. I could go on and on but again, "Depi ou bay Haitien an you bagay poul Gougner, tout mizik se bon mizik" (think of djakout mizik's Ki sa'w mete). But as the old adage says: "Les gouts et les couleurs  ne se discutent pas". Looking at what's going on right now, I am not very optimistic about the future of Haitian Music at all.

QUOTE:   Do you know some of the most successful people in the business world and music industry did not attend college (including Bill Gate, Imus of WFAN, Russell Simmons of D. Jam, PDiddY)? However, these indivuals have learned the rule of games and have developed the skills and business savvy of how to become better and more successful at what they do

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one of the reason the people you have mention are successful is because the road to the music industry has been paved for them on the back of black musicians. a person like puffy is no better (i think he is a dirty gangster not from the street corners but with his lawyers and legal papers).  yes haiti has long way to go.  has a youth growing up in port-au-prince i alway associate komp music with the TONTON MaKouts. 

 

yo, you're not in touch with reality. no one is mad about getting on tv or whatever. it just that these guys are not doing therie sh***t rigth. i would like to see changes for the future genration  of haitian musicians...

 

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Originally posted by: MZ
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y'all just mad cuz ya don't got no record deal and don't got enogh talent to actually get to reach television screens. just becuz haitians like to represent they culture doesn't mean they wanna know y'all remarks about it. if y'all know music so well, why don't ya'll grab your guitars and get on american idol and make a difference at least they tryin'. now i know that i am haitian myself, but even if i wasn't, i i'd still be on this website speakin' my mind. now wut y'all gotta say 'bout that?

quote:  I was was at Sob's that night too, I share your pain. Micky has no respect for the fans,  he did not even apologize for the delay. SOb's is also partly to blame, the club manegement need to do somethign about these Haitian artist who often show up late for perfmance.  I just cannot understand how Haitian can continue to support konpa artist such Micky who blatantly show no regards for the fans. 

I guess that is why haitian cannot do business with any other ethnic groups because they're not professional and they don't how to treat people.

As far as Carimi, these guys are letting success get into their. i remmeber how in the beginnign, the bands' member were very humbly. now, they always on some high sh**T. Ther live performance is often chaotic. They often late. nad now they are trying to pcik a fight with Tvice and konpa Kreyol. Who the hell they think they are

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Originally posted by: TiRaf
"I am an artist, Haitian and make my living in the Dancehall Reggae arena. I love my culture but I've been frustrated for awhile now with Kompa artists. For example, I went to see Micky live at SOB's (April 24, 2004) for a birthday celebration I was so ****ed off I destroyed all his cd's when I got home.What can make me ( a fellow artist at that) so angry?, well, the lack of respect he showed his fans by coming on stage 1hr. plus more late, fixing his equipment for another hr., don't forget the $30 fee to get in, I didn't even wait, I knew he wouldn't even apologize.Oh yeah I had to say sorry to my Trini and Jamaican friends.By the way, this is not the first time.So the hell with him and yeah I wasted my money, no mas!. As a fan of Kompa I'm taking a stand, act like a pro, take me the fan serious or else no mulla!!!! (that's yankee dollars). Finally, Micky is not the only scum to pull that scam: Carimi did it and they just came on the scene. Well, that's off my chest. In the Reggae, Soca and Hip Hop world you throw a stunt like that the masses would have your head. So my peoples BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!! their cd's and shows and you'll see respect. On a positive note: Big Ups to ZIN, last time (and the only time) I saw them at SOB's I felt proud."

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If they don't have any education or experience in promoting, producing, etc., how is it that they get jobs in such endeavors? What qualifications do they have that enable them to get jobs as record producers and promoters? Do they say, "I have no clue what I'm doing, but I'll manage your band anyway"?

But I'm not concerned about any of that. I've given up on the current generation of kompa. Everything is too reminiscent of American music which I'm sick of. So I'll just stick to classics like Gypsies, Shleu Shleu and Gemini All Stars...

you just opened a can of worm my friend. It is truly the story of the chicken and the egg. Too many questions, too many things gone wrong.

1) Haiti does not have a serious government. consequently everyone use their own way to get by, the best way they know how to.

2) Since baby doc was ousted from power, there has not been any formal school for musician. If your are over thirty, I'm sure you have recollection of musical department in all of our lycees. The government for that matter had a "fanfar" apart from a few centers including Saint Trinite. These were the places, where musicians received their knoledge and also teech them about ascap, the royalties business, so forth so on. 

3) I'm not only talking about this issue, I was only a musician wannabe with the evolvement of the electronic world. I was part of a band which had a future like Zin to only name one. We put out an album which was pretty good a that time. It was produce by Antilles or must I say it was put on the shelf by Antilles Mizik.

4) It is all mediocre all the way

a) bands with no Knowledge of music and often if they can  play by ear they have no taste.

b) Producers who are fooling around with their mortgage monies and who are themselves, to echo your statement, bootlegging their own productions in order to steal from the wannabe musicians; Have no clue of the business

lastly, promoters who gathers a few malerez, exploit them in order to throw some parties which lack security and consequently endangered the life of the peolple who seek sexual pleasures in the bal that our groups mastered. 

Yo it is a system

a messed up system. Please reply.