Just wanted to comment about people coming into clubs with do-rags and bandas.  I attended the event "Jeudi Saint Je dis Zin" and was quite surprise that the singer had a do-rag and the musicians were not dressed up as artists.  Therefore, you cannot put all the blame on the fans who attend in the same manner.

Let's take L'Orchestre Septentrional for example, one will always dress accordingly to their event because these musicians have class and the band respect their supporters by starting performing on time.  You will never see a musician of Septentrional in do-rags, bandas, sneakers or jeans.

T-Cam

 

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Originally posted by: JEN
"A few answers to your questions Why aren't the promoters puting pressure on the clubs to enforce? The club owner: Our goal is to maximize wealth. Once we realize the audience is violent or hostile we no longer do business with the promoter of that party. We have nothing to loose. We'll always have other customers. For that matter why aren't the promoters forcing bands to end and begin on time? The promoters: Our goal is to maximize wealth. It doesn't matter if the band is late or not. The audience will always come. Call it B.S. production, but you're always the sucker. What ever happened to no jeans, no sneakers, no Tims? The bums who attend: If the laws aren't enforced why should we adhere to it?   My Question to your statement: I for one am tired of paying any where from $25-$45 to enter a party, where people have not even made an effort to remove their do-rags, jackets and bandas. So why do you continue to pay the fee if your expectations are not being met? Comment: If the bands don't  support those who go to see them, apparently they don't understand that their fans are the ones who support them ? And if there isn't  anyone to blatantly address this issue or a huge decrease in the percentage of people who do attend these events they'll never get the point. Lastly, color coordination is the least of Haitian bands/peoples problems. Professionalism is!"

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To HK rebel:

Indeed, club owners will loose profits if there are shootings at their clubs; but that will eventually explain their reluctance & resistance to do any type of business with these promoters who bring in rambunctious crowds to their establishment.

You also need to keep in mind that some of these promoters  find themselves in a no win situation. The promoters who are respectable often find themselves in a world of trouble because of  unreliable bands & delinquent spectators. These events and experiences might narrow their focus and attention to piling up the green-backs ($$$), even if it's a one shot deal. Maybe this phenomenon explains their convergence from being noble entrepreneurs to being corrupt business men. I'm not justifying their attitudes or their actions, I'm simply presenting both sides of the story.

To Joe:

The only way your analogy of teaching Haitians logic & ethics to teaching a mule or a donkey religion would hold, is if Haitians lacked the capacity to learn.......and as you already know---everyone is capable of learning.

Yours Truly,

Jen

Jenny,

you are certainly right on the the issues. I don't think i these guys deserve to be called  promoters . First of all most of them do not understand the business and they have no standard or moral values.  Jen like you said they only care about the money, not the fans or the music.   Just becuase you invest 3, 000 dollars to have a band play for you! Does not realy qualify someone as a promoter. Basically this is how most of these start in the business.

I think that is why  Haitian music will never go any where?

The fans aslo need to behave themselves in the club.